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Исправление Manhunt, (текущая версия) :

Позиция борцунов за меньшинства неплохо сформулирована Грейдоном Хоаром, автором rust из той самой Mozilla:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/blog_code_of_heat_conductivity/...

Being white in America (say) is mostly an ignorable detail in a white person's life, because it exists as a «default setting» in a white-supremacist culture; being black is much less an ignorable detail in a black American's life, and requiring them to «not talk about it» is a form of reinforcing the bias. They are not equivalent «racial states» of existence, in terms of power and privilege. Making false equivalences between a form of oppression and inverse feelings of discomfort reinforces the oppression by trivializing it.

Put yet another way: it's not ok to tell someone «don't discuss that, that's too sensitive an issue» when they say they're poor (or black, or female, or gay, ...), or mention the disproportionate hardship this fact brings to their life. Demanding someone be silent about oppression doesn't make it easier for them; let the person affected by such oppression signal their desire (or lack thereof) to disclose or discuss the fact. Preemptively erasing people's experience of marginalization in the name of neutrality or topicality is not exercising a sufficient level of empathy and acknowledgement to people with such identities.



https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/blog_code_of_heat_conductivity/...

People have to be treated as individuals, not as avatars of their race

Nobody is suggesting treating people as «avatars of their race». I said, and believe, that if someone's experience of life includes a marginalized identity, they should be able to express that if they wish. Further, that claiming that the mere discussion of marginalized identities is itself unacceptable («because it's sensitive») is a false equivalence, a mis-application of a CoC, and one I reject.

If on the other hand someone is constantly haranguing others about ephemeral offenses like «privilege» apropos of no particular behavior, that's just disruptive

This is exactly the false equivalence I was talking about. Being «harangued» (i.e. having to hear about) someone else's experience of oppression is absolutely not equivalent, in any way, to oppression against your own self; a CoC does not exist to silence the topic. Making that equivalence is unacceptable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/blog_code_of_heat_conductivity/...

harass and bully individuals into changing their nomenclature

Again: unacceptable false equivalence. It's not harassment to ask people to use gender-neutral language. Stop trying to make that equivalence and I'll stop asking.

Исправление Manhunt, :

Позиция борцунов за меньшинства неплохо сформулирована Грейдоном Хоаром, автором rust из той самой Mozilla:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/blog_code_of_heat_conductivity/...

Being white in America (say) is mostly an ignorable detail in a white person's life, because it exists as a «default setting» in a white-supremacist culture; being black is much less an ignorable detail in a black American's life, and requiring them to «not talk about it» is a form of reinforcing the bias. They are not equivalent «racial states» of existence, in terms of power and privilege. Making false equivalences between a form of oppression and inverse feelings of discomfort reinforces the oppression by trivializing it.

Put yet another way: it's not ok to tell someone «don't discuss that, that's too sensitive an issue» when they say they're poor (or black, or female, or gay, ...), or mention the disproportionate hardship this fact brings to their life. Demanding someone be silent about oppression doesn't make it easier for them; let the person affected by such oppression signal their desire (or lack thereof) to disclose or discuss the fact. Preemptively erasing people's experience of marginalization in the name of neutrality or topicality is not exercising a sufficient level of empathy and acknowledgement to people with such identities.



https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/blog_code_of_heat_conductivity/...

People have to be treated as individuals, not as avatars of their race

Nobody is suggesting treating people as «avatars of their race». I said, and believe, that if someone's experience of life includes a marginalized identity, they should be able to express that if they wish. Further, that claiming that the mere discussion of marginalized identities is itself unacceptable («because it's sensitive») is a false equivalence, a mis-application of a CoC, and one I reject.

If on the other hand someone is constantly haranguing others about ephemeral offenses like «privilege» apropos of no particular behavior, that's just disruptive

This is exactly the false equivalence I was talking about. Being «harangued» (i.e. having to hear about) someone else's experience of oppression is absolutely not equivalent, in any way, to oppression against your own self; a CoC does not exist to silence the topic. Making that equivalence is unacceptable.

Исправление Manhunt, :

Позиция борцунов за меньшинства неплохо сформулирована Грейдоном Хоаром, автором rust из той самой Mozilla:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/blog_code_of_heat_conductivity/...

Being white in America (say) is mostly an ignorable detail in a white person's life, because it exists as a «default setting» in a white-supremacist culture; being black is much less an ignorable detail in a black American's life, and requiring them to «not talk about it» is a form of reinforcing the bias. They are not equivalent «racial states» of existence, in terms of power and privilege. Making false equivalences between a form of oppression and inverse feelings of discomfort reinforces the oppression by trivializing it.



https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/blog_code_of_heat_conductivity/...

People have to be treated as individuals, not as avatars of their race

Nobody is suggesting treating people as «avatars of their race». I said, and believe, that if someone's experience of life includes a marginalized identity, they should be able to express that if they wish. Further, that claiming that the mere discussion of marginalized identities is itself unacceptable («because it's sensitive») is a false equivalence, a mis-application of a CoC, and one I reject.

If on the other hand someone is constantly haranguing others about ephemeral offenses like «privilege» apropos of no particular behavior, that's just disruptive

This is exactly the false equivalence I was talking about. Being «harangued» (i.e. having to hear about) someone else's experience of oppression is absolutely not equivalent, in any way, to oppression against your own self; a CoC does not exist to silence the topic. Making that equivalence is unacceptable.

Исходная версия Manhunt, :

Позиция борцунов за меньшинства неплохо сформулирована Грейдоном Хоаром, автором rust из той самой Mozilla:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/450zy7/blog_code_of_heat_conductivity/...

People have to be treated as individuals, not as avatars of their race

Nobody is suggesting treating people as «avatars of their race». I said, and believe, that if someone's experience of life includes a marginalized identity, they should be able to express that if they wish. Further, that claiming that the mere discussion of marginalized identities is itself unacceptable («because it's sensitive») is a false equivalence, a mis-application of a CoC, and one I reject.

If on the other hand someone is constantly haranguing others about ephemeral offenses like «privilege» apropos of no particular behavior, that's just disruptive

This is exactly the false equivalence I was talking about. Being «harangued» (i.e. having to hear about) someone else's experience of oppression is absolutely not equivalent, in any way, to oppression against your own self; a CoC does not exist to silence the topic. Making that equivalence is unacceptable.